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Old 20th October 2017, 00:33
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landlord does. and covers the basic $35/mo or w/e it is as part of rent agreement.
I'm not sure I fully understand: are you saying that you pay $35.00 each and every month for telephone and internet dial-up?

I pay about £30.00 every month for free calls (including to cellphones) and for broadband on an unlimited, all-you-can-eat data-plan...
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Ok, so that means the phone jacks in your apartment are essentially extensions. The landlord might have a phone in the kitchen, and another one in the bedroom, and your phone is just another extension. Am I right?
no, the line is mine.

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Is your phone number the same as the landlord's?
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Because he guaranteed you phone service as part of your rental agreement?
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He would be better off just cutting your rent by 35 bucks and telling you to order your own phone line
6 of one, half dozen of the other.

lease is what the lease is. not the first person to rent this place.
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6 of one, half dozen of the other.
Can't agree on that score.

Unless your lease requires the landlord to provide more than basic telephone service, which is only suitable for voice calls (which is clearly stated by the telco's T&C), you are out of luck, because he has provided exactly that, both before and after the installation of the fibre optics.

Under the present arrangement, I don't see any solution that doesn't involve the landlord. He could probably get broadband DSL service on a dry loop for the same $$ he's paying now for a crappy analog line, but it would be up to you to convince him to do so.

Even that seems like a poor solution, given the switch to fibre optics. It would be interesting to compare the cost of the telco's broadband offerings to people who have FTTH vs the cost of a basic analog line.

So the way I see it, unless you can identify some kind of fault in the internal wiring etc, it boils down to two choices...

A) Convince the landlord to investigate other options for the existing line.

B) Investigate your own options for getting broadband service under your own name.
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what is so confusing here? some apts come furnished, some do not. some come with utilities, some do not. some come with a phone line, some do not.

in pretty much all such cases, one can say "i could do better on my own".

mine came "with utilities (incl phone)". it ain't changing anytime soon.
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hey, i just noticed something. called the access numbers last nite using a normal phone and got "all circuits busy" every last time! what thu...?!

this is NOT the usual case -- as mentioned before, i usually get something resembling a dead hang.

either way, what is this indicative of?! other long-distance numbers are working just fine (mother-in-law's, say); for these 7 alone to be selectively "busy" all the time -- does that indicate it's a problem on the server's end after all? or that the phone company is indeed recognizing them as dialup numbers, and thus "blocking" them (MOST of the time)?

current lockout waaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than usual. 72+ hrs, still no connection!! (making THIS post elsewhere, via wifi)

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it's dialinfree.net, btw. i shuda given concrete detes in earlier posts.

313-263-0769
313-347-2769
313-228-0778
734-225-2769
734-405-7769
517-679-0769
517-992-0769

can others get thru on these? consistently?
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Generally busy signals on those means that all the lines are used up (each number has multiple lines). I had that issue when I had dialup (last century!) on occasion, mostly during peak, evening hours.

You don't have a local access number? Those are fairly widely spaced, Detroit, Ann Arbor, Lansing. They have other access numbers. Long distance over a modem is always spotty, and Michigan isn't exactly the pinnacle of modern utility systems...
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they're not "generally busy" signals, they're PERMANENTLY busy signals. where were u earlier in the thread when i DID have "generally" busy signals (or hangs), finally getting in every 5th hour or so?! you're the first one to back me up on the idea of multiple lines etc!!

but this is no longer the case, i guess. 8 straight days now, haven't gotten connected ONCE.

oh, and they're not "busy signals" to boot. it's an "all circuits busy" message. kind of thing u rarely hear, x/c during natural disasters.

had it just started, i'd blame the weather (chaos last few days). but it didn't; system all went kerflooey on NY eve. i assume SOMETHING changed with the new month/year.

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all the access #s are MI b/c that's where it is. afaik, it's the LONE remaining "free dialup" in the whole country.

anyone knows another, i'm all ears! i'm in a weird situation where i have free nationwide calls. so MI or anywhere else is no biggie. (i'm in boston myself)

i used netzero and juno for ages, but neither of them have worked for 4-5 years now.
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they charge for "support":

http://dialinfree.net/contactus.html

5 bucks is nothing if it actually FIXED anything, but i'm skeptical.

would really like to hear back from others whether they can access this service!

worked PERFECTLY until last summer. spotty since we changed to fiber phone lines. then "not at all" since NYs.....
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worked PERFECTLY until last summer. spotty since we changed to fiber phone lines. then "not at all" since NYs.....

Sorry to say this but I suspect you are going to have to accept the fact that technology has overtaken dial-up services...

I doubt you will find any telecoms company who will now "guarantee" dial up access to the 'net. So few folks use the service that they will not commit any cash to support such things. Just because it used to work is no guarantee that it will continues to be provided as a service.

I know you are not UK based but BT - the UK's premier provider of telephone lines - shut down all dial up services back in 2013. I appreciate that things may vary in other countries but I would suspect that you are going to have difficulty in resolving the problem. Broadband access is your next step.
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ok, but could some enterprising techie here at least TRY them, so i know it's not on my end?

from landline i get those weird "all circuits busy" messages.

from a cell, just a straight busy signal.

no reply from "contact us" email. which cud be normal operating procedure, since they're charging for support elsewhere.

would call the support line if i had ANY confidence in this. methinks it'll be a $5 charge just to hear "currently shut down" or something.
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