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Old 18th October 2017, 14:59

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[QUOTE=alexora;15675759]Ever heard of Antonio Meucci?



Or even Elisha Gray... or any one of half a dozen others?

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Canada is very Americanized (is that a word?)

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Nah.... But Americanised is.. :-)
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Actually this isn't all bad: the phone company could try and fob you off with phony (excuse the pun) reasons as to why you can't use dial-up, but if the phone line is dead they have no option but to pull their finger out.
Just before we got cable,we used to get cut off all the time on dialup!!!

I wonder if they were doing that ON PURPOSE to try and force everyone off dialup!!
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Just before we got cable,we used to get cut off all the time on dialup!!!

I wonder if they were doing that ON PURPOSE to try and force everyone off dialup!!
I wouldn't be too sure: dial-up can work out much more expensive that broadband if it is used to download large files simply because these can take ages to DL.

Back in the 90s, I once was hit with a £600+ phone bill because of the amount of time spent online with dial-up. I was working from home and this was a business expense that the company reimbursed me.

Perhaps in the USA it would have been cheaper, since there telephone contracts do not usually itemise minutes spent on the phone, but here in the UK they sure did.
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Perhaps in the USA it would have been cheaper, since there telephone contracts do not usually itemise minutes spent on the phone, but here in the UK they sure did.
yeah, i leave my connected 24/7. well, once i get connected anyways. but once i'm on, i don't disconnect for anything short of a phone emergency. (or when i pack up the PC to go find wifi.)

but no per-minute charges ever. ALTHO...in the fine print somewhere, i believe they state "intended for human/voice usage; dedicated use by computer/fax/tty/etc not permitted". with some ungodly "penalty" listed -- like "$2/min data usage".

never enforced, however. can they even TELL when i'm using the modem?

we did get a $4000 bill one time a couple years back which damn near killed me. i figured they had suddenly gotten serious about that "penalty", but turned out to just be a random billing error. apparently they had added $3950 or so to pretty much everyone's bill that month!
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yeah, i leave my connected 24/7. well, once i get connected anyways. but once i'm on, i don't disconnect for anything short of a phone emergency.
Were you doing this before the telco ran the fibre into the house?
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pretty much. i've always got DLs of one sort or other going.

pre-fiber i was a little less paranoid about disconnecting, tho. like if i had to call a shop or a bank or something to ask a question, i'd pop off, make the (voice) call, then pop right back on. now i go into it knowing it could well be 2 days or more before i get back on again, so i do everything imaginable to avoid making such calls.

WALKED to a shop to ask a question one day just b/c i was afraid to interrupt my connection!
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Something here doesn't add up. Do you receive a phone bill?
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landlord does. and covers the basic $35/mo or w/e it is as part of rent agreement.

intl calls or spurious $3950, and i hear about it. but perma-connection 24/7 has never affected the bill.
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Ok, so that means the phone jacks in your apartment are essentially extensions. The landlord might have a phone in the kitchen, and another one in the bedroom, and your phone is just another extension. Am I right?

Is your phone number the same as the landlord's?

Because here's what I can't figure out....

When you leave your modem connected for days at a time, that renders the line useless for your landlord, because it is occupied. Anyone calling the landlord will get a busy signal. And if he tries to make a call, when he picks up his phone, instead of a dial tone he will hear the screech from your modem.

So the only way this makes sense is if the landlord has turned over complete control of this phone line to you, and he doesn't use it at all himself. Otherwise you and he would be in constant conflict over use of the line.

Either he has a second line from the telco for himself, or he gets his phone service using VOIP through his internet connection, or he uses cellular exclusively, but it's clear he doesn't use the line you are using.

I can't understand why the landlord would tolerate such an arrangement. Why would he pay for a phone line he never uses? Because he guaranteed you phone service as part of your rental agreement?

He would be better off just cutting your rent by 35 bucks and telling you to order your own phone line, and you would be better off too, because your costs would remain the same, and you would now be able to deal directly with the telco and solve this issue!
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